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Old 06-20-2014, 02:19 PM
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I can't tell you much about the lower levels, as I didn't keep track, but this is what I have for the upper levels. Essentially, I was beating about 1 tower level per character level and at least one tower level per week up through level 76, but then you hit a wall:

(numbers are tower level, date, and my level)

60/61: 2/28/2013
62: 3/1
63: 3/7 274
64: 4/9 282
65: 4/10 283
66: 4/13 283
67: 4/18 284
68/69: 4/24 285
70: 4/30 285
71: 5/2 285
72: 5/5 286
73: 5/29 290
74: 6/5 291
75: 6/9 291
76: 6/15 292
77: 7/5 295
78: 8/23 301
79/80: 1/4/2014 311
81: 2/15/2014 314
82: 3/22/2014, 317
83: 6/11/2014, 321

Levels 79-83 averaged more than a month each, although 79 and 80 were on the same day. 83 took almost 3 months, and I suspect level 84 will take at least as long (if I maintain interest). At this point my companions, combined, knock the boss down only about 20%.

Is it worth it? right now, my gold is at 369% of base (186% guild bonus and 83% tower bonus). That means 22.5% of my gold comes from the tower bonuses. That's probably good enough to buy me a couple of points per day of int or con.

On a more philosophical note, attacking the tower gives you something to do during those 10 minute quests. Although I must admit, attacking half a dozen times per day for 4 months sometimes feels like beating your head against a wall.
I think you meant 269% not 369%
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:02 PM
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I think you meant 269% not 369%
I meant 369%. With no other bonuses I receive 100%. With a 186% guild bonus and an 83% tower bonus, this adds up to 369%.

I'm pretty sure this is correct. 50% guild bonus gives you a total of 150% of baseline, so 186% guild bonus should give you 286% of baseline.
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:56 PM
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I meant 369%. With no other bonuses I receive 100%. With a 186% guild bonus and an 83% tower bonus, this adds up to 369%.

I'm pretty sure this is correct. 50% guild bonus gives you a total of 150% of baseline, so 186% guild bonus should give you 286% of baseline.
with no bonuses u get base guild bounse is 186%+ 83% tower is 269% bonus. You cant count your base as 100% bonus as it the least amount you can get is your base and bonus is extra so you get 269% bonus.

Easy way to tell your gold bonus click on a quest the hover cursor over the gold reward it will show you your bonuses example for my s3 toon 190% guild and 85% would be 275%.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:27 PM
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with no bonuses u get base guild bounse is 186%+ 83% tower is 269% bonus. You cant count your base as 100% bonus as it the least amount you can get is your base and bonus is extra so you get 269% bonus.
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right now, my gold is at 369% of base (186% guild bonus and 83% tower bonus). That means 22.5% of my gold comes from the tower bonuses.
See? 369% of base, not 369% over base. If a baseline quest, without bonuses, paid 100,000 gold, I would receive 369,000 gold.

The whole point of this exercise was to estimate whether or not it was worth spending gold to upgrade your tower minions. I was not calculating my bonus, I was calculating the percent of my gold, which includes both base and bonus, that was due to the tower.

yes, my bonus is 269% but my total gold is 369% of baseline, of which 83% is due to the tower. If you don't include the baseline gold you would erroneously conclude that 83/269 or 30% of my gold is coming from the tower when only 22% is.

The next question is how much gold does it cost to upgrade minions to level 322. In the long run I don't think it's all that important, since upgrading minions is a one time cost and the gold bonus continues in perpetuity, so eventually you will be better off upgrading even if initially you pay more in than you are getting back.

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Old 06-29-2014, 03:06 PM
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Interesting stuff! Obviously by the time I hit level 325 we will all be playing this game in five dimensions while zipping around in flying cars on Neptune, but I suppose these are all things to look forward to.

So far I've got the minions to level 175-176 and myself to level 183, and two tower levels down. So counting the equipment, around 10 million gold spent for a 2% bonus. I know it's about the long run, but at my level I still get a fair amount of stat mileage out of 10 million gold... so I'm still a bit tempted to just hold the Tower for another 30, 40, 50 levels (until whenever minion prices start looking comparatively inexpensive) and then beef them up all in one go and start rampaging through... but maybe that's just my bad math skills... decisions, decisions...
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:04 PM
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:18 PM
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I try to keep companions at same level as me what I do for the server I don't shroom on is level up 1 companion a day when they can be leveled up this way I dont take the hit all at once. On s3 where I still shroom I level them up all at once if I emeber but at times I do it same way as my non shroomng account.
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I was chugging along at a decent pace from ~75 through 80. They were all smooth sailing, and I knocked them out in quick succession. Floor #81 however appears to be a huge pain. I'm struggling to take "Little John" even below 40% health. Seems like a pretty significant difficulty spike after floor 80.

edit: indeed. After looking at the numbers, I see why. It goes from +250 to primary attribute, +100 to secondary attributes, + 1000 to constitution (from 79 to 80)... to +700 main attribute, +300 secondary attributes, +3000 constitution (from 80 to 81). I suppose that explains why every level after floor #80 gets an announcement in guild chat.

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Old 12-27-2015, 12:38 PM
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John is giving me some problems as well. Pretty much flew through the 70s minus the red/white mage. Getting John to like 20mil and best was like 10ish. Also shadow world bosses are hitting on the reg for 10mil. I'm only lvl 281 though so that might have a lot to do with it
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:53 PM
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Depends on what class you are and how u build your toon when you will hit the tower wall. can start from lvl 76 or even lower to as high as lvl 82 or even higher but not much higher.

On s10 I am on tower lvl 82 and I am lvl 296 and a warrior.
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