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Old 02-18-2016, 12:38 PM
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Default 24 Hours Of Fortress Protection

You know attacking system. You attack for getting honor on fortress hall of fame. But sometimes you attack someone, after you pass some enemies by clicking "Change opponent", the same enemy appears again on attacking panel.

When we attack someone, doesn't he get protection for this?
Is the protection be activated when the player's online and see the attack?

And one more question;

We take the wood and stone from Woodcutter's hot and Quarry by attacking which is "produced".
For example I took 50000 wood and 20000 stone from enemy's fortress. After 4 or 5 enemies I see the same enemy that I took 50000 and 20000 before. And it's saying possible loot is 10000/2000 etc.

How it's happening?

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Old 02-18-2016, 01:54 PM
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Protection only covers your fortress resources,not woodcutters and stone.
When protected,you gain what they produce in 1h/45/30/15 min, depeidng on how big fortress lv difference is. I think it may stack-if somebody wasn't attacked for 2 hours then loot may be doubled-I noticed what you said too.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:28 PM
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It's not 2 hours. It's about 2 or 3 mins I saw. It's impossible to produce again in that time.

If protection covers only fortress resources, what happens without it? How does the game calculate it ? Some players sayin' "You take loot about %40-50 from the storage. And the protection will be activated when the player saw the attack."

I'm really curious. That will be change everything, every strategy or tip.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:58 PM
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http://forum.sfgame.us/showthread.php?t=8003
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In addition to normal loot you also get a bonus now that is added by the game and not your target. If your fortress level is equal to the target's fortress level you get as many wood and stone as the target's huts produce in 1 hour. If your fortress level is higher by 1 you get what the target produces in 45 minutes. Higher by 2? You get what the target produces in 30 minutes. Higher by 3 - you get what it produces in 15 minutes.
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:23 PM
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I investigated what you said right now. The bonus thing.

Wood/Stone = W/S

1)
Before the attack W/S is 228870/60542
After the attack = 242139/65142

Opponent's loot = 13259/4600
Fortress Upgrade = 87 his, 76 mine. (87/76) I think It's about 1 or 2 level

Loot I gained is 13269/4600 It's just 10 wood bonus

2)
Before the attack = 242139/65142
After the attack = 253948/65992

Opponent's loot= 11778/850
Fortress Upgrade = 88/76

Loot I gained is 11809/850 31 wood bonus

My question is, all the loots are different. I mean these are normal loot bonuses. With bonus or no, this 11000 loot I've just taken, where did this come from? Produced Woodcutter or whatever percent of fortress storage?

This guy will appear on attacking panel twice or more in 5 mins ( clicking "change opponent" ) and It will give me less than 11000. It could be about 4000-5000.

How can this happen If our guy takes protection after I attacked him? The bonus thing is normal loot + bonus? Or after the attack, protection fortress + bonus when the guy appears in 5 mins . I mean this 4000-5000 loot is a bonus because of I'm attacking twice?
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:53 PM
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I investigated what you said right now. The bonus thing.

Wood/Stone = W/S

1)
Before the attack W/S is 228870/60542
After the attack = 242139/65142

Opponent's loot = 13259/4600
Fortress Upgrade = 87 his, 76 mine. (87/76) I think It's about 1 or 2 level

Loot I gained is 13269/4600 It's just 10 wood bonus

2)
Before the attack = 242139/65142
After the attack = 253948/65992

Opponent's loot= 11778/850
Fortress Upgrade = 88/76

Loot I gained is 11809/850 31 wood bonus

My question is, all the loots are different. I mean these are normal loot bonuses. With bonus or no, this 11000 loot I've just taken, where did this come from? Produced Woodcutter or whatever percent of fortress storage?

This guy will appear on attacking panel twice or more in 5 mins ( clicking "change opponent" ) and It will give me less than 11000. It could be about 4000-5000.

How can this happen If our guy takes protection after I attacked him? The bonus thing is normal loot + bonus? Or after the attack, protection fortress + bonus when the guy appears in 5 mins . I mean this 4000-5000 loot is a bonus because of I'm attacking twice?
Not sure but Fortress Upgrade is different than Fortress Level
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:34 AM
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Not sure but Fortress Upgrade is different than Fortress Level
You could be right. It was just a guess anyway.

But my mind is about to blow up. I wish I could know the answers. These informations can change every strategy.

There is a man who doesn't make defenses for getting protection. He thinks with a protection, you're being attacked once a day. (Because protection is 24 hours and with protection you never being attacked)

I think It's wrong because I attacked the same guy again and again in 1 day.
And loots weren't so bad either.
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Old 02-19-2016, 02:08 AM
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not only do you get loot from the player you attack you also get some bonus loot from Playa the amount is not known.
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Old 02-19-2016, 02:12 AM
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not only do you get loot from the player you attack you also get some bonus loot from Playa the amount is not known.
http://forum-int.sfgame.net/showpost...7&postcount=16

I found this on international S&F Forum. But still have questions. Without protection I had 320000 woods and some guy attacked me and took my 23000. If he can take my %10 of fortress, why didn't he take minimum 32000 woods?

His fortress level is higher than mine.
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:51 AM
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You could be right. It was just a guess anyway.

But my mind is about to blow up. I wish I could know the answers. These informations can change every strategy.

There is a man who doesn't make defenses for getting protection. He thinks with a protection, you're being attacked once a day. (Because protection is 24 hours and with protection you never being attacked)

I think It's wrong because I attacked the same guy again and again in 1 day.
And loots weren't so bad either.
http://forum.sfgame.us/showpost.php?...0&postcount=16

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Resources won and lost

You can only win if you declare an attack. You can only lose if you are attacked. After building your level 1 fortress your first resources (wood and stone) will be protected for 48 hours and cannot be stolen by other players. Afterwards, resources are kept and stolen using the calculation below:

If the attacker defeats you he/she is rewarded with 50% of your unprotected wood and stone (woodcutter's hut, quarry). In addition, the attacker also gains 10% of your resources that are stored in the fortress. After an attack your fortress is safe for 8 hours and other attackers can only steal 50% of your resources in your woodcutter's hut and quarry.

An example - you have the following resources:
Woodcutter's hut: 1400 wood
Quarry: 800 stone
Fortress: 8000 wood, 6000 stone

You are attacked and defeated. Now you lose 50% of your resources in the woodcutter's hut and quarry - you lose 700 wood and 400 stone....and you lose 10% of your resources stored in the fortress - you lose 800 wood and 600 stone.
The game calculates the total loss: 700 + 800 = 1500 wood and 400 + 600 = 1000 stone. First, the 1500 wood is taken from the woodcutter's hut and completely emptied (1500 - 1600 = -100). The remaining 100 wood is taken from the fortress, resulting in 0 wood (woodcutter's hut) and 7900 wood (fortress). The quarry has 0 stone as well, the fortress 5800 stone.

Now your fortress is safe for 24 hours. The resources in your woodcutter's hut and quarry can still be stolen. If you are attacked and defeated again the attacker steals another 50% of your woodcutter's wood and quarry's stone.

Please note that the calculation above only applies if both players have the same fortress level or if yours is lower! If your fortress level is higher the gained resources are reduced by a certain percentage. If your fortress level is higher by 3 you cannot win any resources at all!

Example:

Target: fortress level 10
Your fortress: <= 10
Stone won: 1500

Your fortress: 11
Stone won: ~ 1100

Your fortress: 12
Stone won: ~ 900

Your fortress: >= 13
Stone won: 0

As you can see upgrading your fortress is highly important.
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