What do you watch on TV

[MUraxx]

White Collar
Suits
Burn Notice
Law & Order

And soon to be watching Sons of Anarchy when the new season starts soon

[polopoloyuuu]

downton abbey

[WebsteR]

Various sit coms and detective shows, cartoons like South Park, Family Guy, Beavis and Butt-Head , from time to time i watch some documentary films or shows.

[ralff]

Originally Posted by Gynx

speaking as somoene who isnt from the US..I need to ask..

what is the appeal of fake wrestling (WWE or whatever Impact is).

I just dont understand..

all scripted, roided up and poorly acted

What is the appeal?
I cxan understand if those of who in the US dont enjoy "soccer". Thats fine.
Or some people love NASCAR, some hate it. Some like baseball or tennis or golf or the NFL or hockey or cricket or biking or billiards or whatever..but at least the outcome is in doubt if nothing else.

So please tell me what the appeal is?

as i stated in one of the who is who threads i am a former failed pro wrestler so i will tell you what the appeal is to me. forgive me as i am generally long winded and this is a subject for which i have passion. first and foremost let me say that the current product wwe is showing is geared towards a younger crowd (pg13) and thus not terribly appealing to me as a whole but i do enjoy specific workers for various reasons.

while stating that wrestling is scripted is true it is only true to a point which is one of the reasons it is appealing to me. the parts that are scripted are the endings and in some cases specific parts or spots as they are referred to in the matches. the rest of the match is put together by the wrestlers during the match. yes during the actual match. if you watch close enough you can often see the performers whispering to each other. i can tell you this is no easy thing. they call their moves sometimes 10 or so ahead and have to remember what order to perform them in. i can not tell you how many times while training i messed this up. there was this one time when i was training where we were doing chain wrestling. that is the boring stuff at the start of the match no one remembers which is way harder than it looks. we had all paired up and had the simple task of doing 8 moves in a row. our trainer had told us the 8 specific moves and what order to do them in. all we had to do was do them correctly in the right order. if we did we could go home because it was the end of the night and we had already been training for hours. each pair of wrestlers tried the set and failed. only one pair had to get it right but we all messed up. so we went again and failed again. this went on for an hour. we were not stupid guys well not all of us but working together to do 8 moves in a row without making an error had proved impossible. finally a pair of guys was on the final move which was a clothesline. yes these were basic fundamental moves we were all messing up repeatedly. anyway they were almost done. they had done 7 out of the 8 moves with no errors. we were all going crazy because finally a pair was going to do all 8 moves and we could go home. the one guy hits the other guy with the clothesline and they both fell flat on their backs. which was not at all how it is supposed to work. the guy giving the clothesline took a bump(fall) too which he was not supposed to do and really makes no sense. he just had a brain fart. right at the end of the set after doing everything else perfectly. it was pretty funny to see but heart breaking because we thought we would be there all night. luckily the trainer let us go. my point is the guys you see on tv rarely mess up because they really are the best of the best at what they do. most of them have been doing this for years and have really honed their craft.

me? i only lasted one year. i had 3 serious injuries and was working full time. my body was not built for the abuse. i mean everything hurts. learning to bump(fall) which is one of the most basic things is also one of the hardest and most painful things to learn. running the ropes. eh that does not sound hard does it? the "ropes" are metal cable wrapped in electrical tape that you run at full force then slam your back into to give the illusion you are bouncing off of them. i have pictures on facebook of the soccer sized bruises i got from running the ropes the first couple times. my point is i have crazy respect or these guys that continue to destroy their bodies for entertainment.

when two wrestlers are good enough to work together, to suck me in and get me to suspend my disbelief that they are really trying to beat one another it truly is a piece of art. that may seem cheesey but as someone that has been a fan for 25 years and someone that has been in the ring i know how hard it really is to do it well. i can look past the bad acting and silly stories to look at these guys busting their butts to get us to cheer or boo them.

i will address one other comment you made which was referring to them as roided up. this is a totally understandable comment. if you look at the more mainstream and well known wrestling figures they are all pretty big muscular guys. as a kid i was a big hulk hogan fan and he perfectly fits the bill. if i were a kid today i would probably be a john cena fan and again he is another great example. despite the fact he claims to be a natural. the guys i enjoy tend to be the guys that can actually wrestle which are not necessarily the body builder type guys. if you went back a couple months ago wwe had two champions. cm punk who is in no way a roided up monster and daniel bryan who is a regular sized guy. they are both are in great shape and their cardio is amazing because they can wrestle for days. many would consider those two to be the best wrestlers in the united states today. despite the fact cm punk says he is the best in the world a monicker he stole from daniel bryan. i bring up daniel bryan because he wrestled in the small independent wrestling companies for years before moving up to the wwe. his name is bryan danielson. i have watched him wrestle live move times than i can count. most times in front of a couple hundred people at best. i have chatted with him and shaken his hand on many occasions. he is smaller than me. in fact he is the same height as my wife. gone are the days of giant muscle heads being the main attraction. guys that have really studied and perfected the art of pro wrestling are the future.

i mean this is just my take on it. i am sure other people enjoy it for vastly different reasons. just like i understand that some people will write it of as being "fake" but there really is so much more to it then that. i hope my response did not come of as flippant or condescending. i just wanted to give a honest and heartfelt reply.

if you ever want to check out an australian independent wrestling company this is one i know about http://www.awfwrestling.com.au/wrest.../Massive+Q.htm i specifically linked a guy that i know that wrestles there. aint he a sexy beast




on to the tv question. obviously i watch wrestling. beyond that i am pretty crazy with tv. if you thought my book response was long get ready to be blown away. this is my recently updated list of tv on dvd that i own. own as in purchased from a store brand new. i hate used stuff. who wants scratches and other peoples germs. ill. so again purchased not copied or downloaded. my collection is legit.

A.
Alias: The Complete Series
Alien Nation: The Complete Series
Alien Nation: Ultimate Movie Collection
Alphas: Season 1
Angel: The Complete Series
Animaniacs: Volume 1-3
Are You Being Served?: The Complete Series
Arrested Development: The Complete Series
B.
Babylon 5: The Complete Series
Band of Brothers
Batman: The Complete Series
Batman Beyond: The Complete Series
Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Series
Beauty and the Beast: The Complete Series
Beavis and Butthead: Volume 1-4
Being Human: Season 1-2 (UK)
The Ben Stiller Show: The Complete Series
The Big Bang Theory: Season 1-4
Bionic Woman: The Complete Series (2007)
Black Adder: The Ultimate Edition
Blade: The Complete Series
Blood Ties: The Complete Series
Boardwalk Empire: Season 1
Bob's Burgers: Season 1
Bones: Season 1-3
The Boondocks: Season 1-2
Breaking Bad: Season 1-4
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Complete Series
Burn Notice: Season 1-4
C.
The Cape: The Complete Series
Caprica: Season 1.0
Carnivale: The Complete Series
Castle: Season 1-3
Chappelle's Show: The Complete Series
Childrens Hospital: Season 1-2
Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers: Volume 1-2
The Chris Rock Show: Season 1-2
Chuck: Season 1-2, 5
Convection: The Complete Series
The Cosby Show: The Complete Series
Criminal Minds: Season 1
Criminal Minds: Season 4
CSI: Season 1-2
D.
Da Ali G Show: The Complete Series
Daria: The Complete Series
Dark Angel: The Complete Series
Deadliest Warrior: Season 1
Dead Like Me : The Complete Series
Deadwood: The Complete Series
The Dead Zone: The Complete Series
Defying Gravity: The Complete Series
Dennis Miller the HBO Specials
Dexter: Season 1-5
Dharma and Greg: Season 1
Dilbert: The Complete Series
Dollhouse: The Complete Series
The Dresden Files: The Complete Series
The Drew Carey Show: Season 1
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman: The Complete Series
Duck Tales: Volume 1-3
Due South: The Complete Series
E.
Early Edition: Season 1-2
Earth Final Conflict: Season 1
Earth 2: The Complete Series
Eerie Indiana: The Complete Series
8 Simple Rules: Season 1-2
Eleventh Hour: The Complete Series
Entourage: Season 1-7
Eureka: The Complete Series
The Event: The Complete Series
F.
Fallen: The Complete Series
Family Guy: Volume 1-8
Falling Skies: Season 1
Farscape: The Complete Series
Firefly The Complete Series
1st & Ten: The Complete Series
Flashforward: The Complete Series
Forever Knight: The Complete Series
The 4400: The Complete Series
Fortysomething: The Complete Series
Fraggle Rock: The Complete Series
Frasier: The Complete Series
Freaks and Geeks: The Complete Series
Friday Night Lights: The Complete Series
Friends: The Complete Series
Fringe: Season 1-3
Futurama: Volume 1-6
G.
Galactica 1980: The Complete Series
Game of Thrones: Season 1
Garfield and Friends: Volume 1-2
The George Carlin Collection
G.I. Joe: The Complete Series
The Golden Girls: The Complete Series
H.
Harsh Realm: The Complete Series
Haunted: The Complete Series
The Haunted World of El Superbeasto: The Complete Series
Haven: Season 1
Hawaii Five-0: Season 1
Hell on Wheels: Season 1
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe: Season 1 Vol. 1
Hercules the Legendary Journeys: Season 1
Heroes: The Complete Series
Hoarders: Season 1
Homicide Life on the Street: The Complete Series
House: Season 1-6
How I Met Your Mother: Season 1-6
Human Target: Season 1
I.
The Incredible Hulk: The Complete Series
In Plain Sight: Season 1-3
Invasion: The Complete Series
The Invisible Man: Season 1
Iron Chef America: Battle of the Masters
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: Season 1-6
J.
Jeeves and Wooster: The Complete Series
Justice League: The Complete Series
Justified: Season 1
K.
Kate and Allie: Season 1
The Kids in the Hall: The Complete Series
The Killing: Season 1
Kingdom Hospital: The Complete Series
The King of Queens: The Complete Series
Kitchen Confidential: The Complete Series
Knight Rider: The Complete Series
Kung Fu: Season 1
Kyle XY:: The Complete Series
L.
The League: Season 1-2
Legend of the Seeker: The Complete Series
Lexx: Season 1-3
Lie to me: Season 1-2
Life: The Complete Series
Life After People: Season 1-2
The Life of Birds: The Complete Series
Life on Mars: The Complete Series (US)
Little House on the Prairie: Season 1-4
The Lone Gunman: The Complete Series
Lost: The Complete Series
M.
Macgyver: Season 1
Mad About You: The Complete Series
Mad Men: Season 1-4
Mad Tv: Season 1
The Man Show: Season 1
Man vs. Food: Season 1-3
Mash: The Complete Series
Men of a Certain Age: Season 1
The Middleman: The Complete Series
Mike & Molly: Season 1
Millennium: The Complete Series
Monk: Season 1-2
Moonlight: The Complete Series
Mr. Bean: The Whole Bean
Murphy Brown: Season 1
My Name is Earl: The Complete Series
My So-called Life: The Complete Series
N.
News Radio: The Complete Series
Night Court: Season 1-3
Nikita: Season 1
Northern Exposure: The Complete Series
Numb3rs: Season 1-2
O.
The Osbournes: Season 1-2.5
Outsourced: The Complete Series
Oz: The Complete Series
P.
Pain Killer Jane: The Complete Series
Pawn Stars: Season 1-2
The Pee-Wee Herman Show
Pee-Wee's Playhouse: The Complete Series
Pinky and the Brain: Volume 1-3
Planet Earth: The Complete Series
Point Pleasant: The Complete Series
Pokemon: All Stars 1-20
The Pretender: The Complete Series
Prison Break: The Complete Series
Pushing Daisies: The Complete Series
Q.
Quantum Leap: The Complete Series
R.
Raising Hope: Season 1
Reba: The Complete Series
Reno 911: The Complete Series
The River: The Complete Series
Rome: The Complete Series
S.
Samantha Who: The Complete Series
Sanctuary: Season 1-2
Saturday Night Live: Season 1-5
Seaquest DSV: Season 1-2
Shaun the Sheep: Season 1
The Shield: The Complete Series
The Simpsons: Season 1-13, 20
Six Feet Under: The Complete Series
Smallville: Season 1-8, 10
The Smurfs: Season 1 Vol. 2
Sons of Anarchy: Season 1-2
The Sopranos: The Complete Series
South Park: Season 1-12
Space Above and Beyond: The Complete Series
Spaced: The Complete Series
Spartacus: Blood and Sand
Spartacus: Gods of the Arena
Stargate Atlantis: The Complete Series
Stargate Infinity: The Complete Series
Stargate SG1: The Complete Series
Stargate Universe: The Complete Series
Startrek DS9: The Complete Series
Startrek Enterprise: Season 1-2
Startrek the Next Generation: The Complete Series
Startrek the Original Series: The Complete Series
Startrek Voyager: The Complete Series
The State: The Complete Series
Stripperella: The Complete Series
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip: The Complete Series
Superman: The Complete Series
Supernatural: Season 1-6
Supernatural The Anime Series: The Complete Series
Survivors: The Complete Series
Swamp People: Season 1
T.
Tales from the Crypt: The Complete Series
Talespin: Volume 1-2
Teen Titans: The Complete Series
Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles: The Complete Series
That 70's Show: The Complete Series
3rd Rock from the Sun: Season 1-5
30 Rock: Season 1-3, 5
Three's Company: Season 1-2
Threshold: The Complete Series
Thundercats: Season 1 Volume 1
Tiny Toons Adventures: Season 1
Torchwood: Season 1-2
The Transformers: The Complete Series
Tripping the Rift: Season 1
Tru Calling: The Complete Series
True Blood: Season 1-3
The Tudors: The Complete Series
21 Jumpstreet: The Complete Series
Twilight Zone: The Complete Series (1959)
Twilight Zone: The Complete Series (2002)
Twin Peaks: The Complete Series
Two and a Half Men: Season 1-5
U.
Undeclared: The Complete Series
V.
V: The Complete Series (1984)
V: Season 1 (2009)
Vampire Diaries: Season 1-2
Veronica Mars: The Complete Series
W.
The Waltons: The Complete Series
The Walking Dead: Season 1
Warehouse 13: Season 1-2
War of the Worlds: Season 1
White Collar: Season 1-3
The Wire: The Complete Series
Wolverine and the X-Men: The Complete Series
Wonderfalls: The Complete Series
X.
The X Files: The Complete Series
Y.
The Young Ones: The Complete Series

so that is what i own. what do i really like right now? in no particular order. sons of anarchy, justified, homeland, alphas, dexter, game of thrones, true blood, falling skies and white collar. i also enjoy storage wars,american picker, restaurant impossible, chopped and iron chef.

[BMWGuinness]

I just found "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" which I will be partaking in this evening.

[D0C]

I mostly watch sports US and UK. Football (Soccer), Cricket, MMA, Baseball and Ice Hockey are my preferences.

I also enjoy NCIS, CSI (Not Miami), Law and Order, Big Bang Theory, New Girl and cartoons.

[ralff]

Originally Posted by BMWGuinness

I just found "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" which I will be partaking in this evening.

i loved hugh on "house" and both of them in "jeeves and wooster". what is this show about?

[Lord Arse]

Originally Posted by BMWGuinness

I just found "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" which I will be partaking in this evening.

Soupy twist! :-)

[BMWGuinness]

A Bit of Fry & Laurie is a British sketch comedy television series written by and starring former Cambridge Footlights members Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie, broadcast on both BBC1 and BBC2 between 1989 and 1995. It ran for four series and totalled 26 episodes, including a 35 minute pilot episode in 1987.
As in The Two Ronnies, elaborate wordplay and innuendo were staples of its material. It frequently broke the fourth wall; characters would revert into their real-life actors mid-sketch, or the camera would often pan off set into the studio. In addition, the show was punctuated with non-sequitur vox pops in a similar style to those of Monty Python's Flying Circus, often making irrelevant statements, heavily based on wordplay. Laurie was also seen playing piano and a wide variety of other instruments and singing comical numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bit_of_Fry_%26_Laurie

[Gynx]

sorry ralff, dont recall your "about me/who is who" section from the top of my head.
i dont read most things on here anymore anyway.

the fact the end is scripted is the worst part to me. id rather it be unscripted or perhaps the first few parts be..ie.."ok, first i get taken down by you, then i take you down 2x, and then its every man for himself". i have seen maybe a total of 15 minutes of it on tele. yes i have seen them whisper to each other which is yet another annoying thing to me. "hey..do this move over in that corner"..etc.
as you wrestled and trained and such i dont want to knock you or this form of entertainment too hard..so lets just say "i dont understand the appeal" and call it a day